TECHNICAL SOLUTIONS for Large Scale Models. By Jan Hermkens.
With the examples;
The B17 FLYING FORTRESS : a.o. the EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSMODEL STAND-OFF SCALE '94+'95+'96+’99 (Europa Star Cup) The SHORT SUNDERLAND : a.o. WINNER EURO CUP SCALE-WATERFLYING '94. The P-61 BLACK WIDOW : a.o. the EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSMODEL STAND-OFF SCALE 2000+2001 (Europa Star Cup)
Built by Jan Hermkens from own Plans. |
Specifications Models : (all Woodconstruction) | |||
| B-17 FLYING FORTRESS | SHORT SUNDERLAND | P-61 BLACK WIDOW |
Scale | 1/8th | 1/10th | 1/6,6th |
Wing Span | 4,00m = 158” | 3,45m = 136” | 3,10m = 122” |
Fuselage Length | 2,85m = 112” | 2,64m = 104” | 2,28m = 90” |
Wing Profile | NACA 4415 Root/ 2415 Tip | NACA 4415 Root / 2415 Tip | Ownmix NACA 2414-2314/ 0014 tip |
Rootrib Chord | 75cm | 67cm | 55cm |
Stabilizer Span | 164 cm | 110cm | 78cm |
Stabilizer Profile | NACA 0012 | NACA 0012 | NACA 0012 |
Wingsurface | 190 dm² | 180 dm² | 140 dm² |
Weight | 19,2 kg | 18,5 kg | 18,5 kg |
Engines | 4x Laser 70 (11,5cm³) four-stroke | 4x Osmax 46SF (7,5cm³) two-stroke | 2x Laser 240-Vtwin (40cm³)fourstroke |
Prop | M.A. 13x6 (9000 RPM) | M.A. 12x6 (10000 RPM) | Engel Carbon 18x11 (8000 RPM) |
Retract | :Own Construction; Electric | none (Flying Boat) | Own Construction; Electric |
Reciever | 2x PCM double Superhet with 2x PMS Plus | 2x PCM double Superhet | 2x PCM double Superhet with 2x PMS Plus |
Servo’s | 16 x | 13x | 27x |
Batteries | 6x | 5x | 6x |
My drawings (updated in 2010) are available; (see Downloads or Contact-Plans-Links) But from the B-17 only the smaller version 1:10 of 1983 (spw 3,16m). For the 1/8th version I have cut out the necessary parts from my own 1:10 plan and copied them 125%, and have adapted the constructions a little bit for a fuselage splitting and extra wingsplittings. |
FUSELAGE-TAILSECTION CONNECTION.
In relation to the transport and the manageable the tailsection had to be detachable, and therefore providings were attached for the Fuselage-Tailsection joining and glued into some formers. At the joining so a dual former (Sandwich:2x 1mm ply with inbetween them 6mm balsa with plywood rings), these are bolted together with 4 socket bolts and blind nuts M4 (2mm balsa strips between them, this for. The later on twosided to fix on 1mm ply rings. These as protection against damiging and for a perfect seamfitting of the fuselage parts). The fuselage-joiner itself can be very light: flat springwire 6x1mm in flat brass tubes 7x2mm. The flat brass tubes are provisional in one piece and on both sides, glued in 2 formers (front- and tailpiece must be sheeted apart) and later, after the bolt have been removed, sawn through between the the dual formers (perfect fitting). |
![]() Fuselage-Tail Splitting Short Sunderland | ![]() Fuselage-Tail Splitting B-17 |
![]() Tail-Boom Splitting P-61 | ![]() Fuselage-Tail Splitting B-17 (detail) |
Steering Rods: Because all Fuselage-servos are in the front of the nose (to avoid a lot of extra lead) and all linkages to the rudders are a closed-loop system (plastified control line wire), these linkages had to be disconnectable on the spot of the fuselage splitting (with exception of the P-61, there are the servo’s for rudder and elevator as far as possible forwards in the tailsection of both booms). On a 3mm ply strip, in the front of the tailpiece, there are 3 cranks (3mm axle), which all are connected with kwiklinks and a closed-loop system to the inner control horns of rudder and elevator. On these 3 cranks there are also, all on the outside, threaded ball links (M2). The connection forwards take place with alu. ball links and and moved on security clips, naturaly also with a closed-loop system to the servo’s. The kwiklinks on the servo’s have to be disconnected every time! (not on the P-61) |
STABILIZER- and WING JOINERS: -On the Sunderland the stabilizer has been glued, in one piece, into the Tailplane, the elevators are direct linked, internal via 2 apart built in cranked pianowires (3mm bended pianowire, bearinged in plastic tubes) with control horns. The elevators they have glued in tight fitted plastic tubes, and are slided over these cranked pianowires, not glued, so they are always removeable. So also the rudder. |
![]() Stabilizer Sunderland, in one piece (elevators and rudder are removeable |
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![]() Left Stabilizer-part B-17 | ![]() Stabilizer P-61 with carbon join tubes |
![]() Stabilizer P-61 with the elevator control tubes (so also B-17) | ![]() Elevator- and rudder linkage on the P-61 |
Wing Joining: -On the B-17 the wing consists of 2 halves , which are slided to the fuselage with wingjoiners. The wing joiner on the front is a loose thinwall Dural tube Ø30mm and the rear a Ø18mm one. (for the 1/10th B-17 drawing I have updated it in 2010 with a loose thinwall dural tube Ø 25mm and carbon tube Ø 11mm). -On the P-61 the wing is also in 2 halves, the wing joining is the same as on the B-17, but now with dural tubes Ø35 and Ø20mm. These tubes are thus loose and in a single piece and slided into fiberglass guide tubes (glued in to the fuselage and innerwing halves). The wings, also provided with guide tubes, are slided over the stretched out tubes and secured with long “Parkers”, through abachi blocks (glued on the guide tubes) into the tubes, which are provided internally with short and small ash-tree or hickory blocks (on her sides and so making the tubes even stronger against nodding). |
![]() Winghalve B-17 (innner & outer part) | ![]() Winghalve P-61 (inner & outer part) |
-Each winghalve on the B-17 and P-61 is also divisible in 2 parts and also these are connected with wingjoiners, but now glued in. The outer wingparts; On the B-17: in front a Ø18mm dural tube and the rear one a Ø11mm carbon tube. On the P-61: in front a Ø25mm dural tube and at the rear Ø11mm carbon tube. The innerwing parts have on the outside glued in polyester guide tubes. On the spot of the deviding there is of course a dual wingrib (for each part, one) and during the open construction, the joining has to been attached, this for an accurate fitting! The security is done, as with the fuselage-wingjoiners, with “parkers through abbachi blocks into the tubes, internally also provided with ash-tree or hickory blocks. The stabilizer joining with the fuselage consists of gluedin carbon tubes Ø11mm, forward and rear, which are slided into polyester guide tubes glued in the fuselage. Here also the security is done with “parkers”. |
![]() Splitted Winghalve B-17 | ![]() Dural and Carbon Wing & Stabizer Joiners |
![]() Outer Winghalve P-61 | ![]() P-61 Inner Winghalve with Nacelle + Outer Winghalve |
-At the Sunderland the wing only consists of 2 parts (stabilizer glued on), which are connected with each other by a wingjoiner of flat springsteel 1,5x15mm in gluedin brass flat tubes 2,5x16mm, forward with 2 of them above each other, a long one untill the First nacelle and a short one. The rear is a short one 1,5x12mm in a brass tube 2,5x13mm. (in 2010 drawing updated, so now, loose thinwall dural tube Ø 30mm and carbon tube Ø 12mm. So also for the 1/10th B-17, loose thinwall dural tube Ø 25mm and carbon tube Ø 11mm, and for the splitted Stabilizer Ø 9mm: Lighter). The Winghalves for the Sunderland are secured to each other with 2 alu. strips and parkers in abachi blocks, and than bolted on the fuselage with 4 long stainless steel bolts M6, in to the fuselage fixed metal inserts. Over this than comes the long cockpithood, which stretch from nose to the rearend of the wing. |
![]() Wing-Joiner Short Sunderland |
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FLAPS and SPOILERONS.
B-17 Split Flaps: The real B-17 has splitflaps and on the model these were built directly against the wing underside, with clearfoil between it as a barrier. The special flap hinges were attached, recessed into the flaps and wing under-surface. There is a gap between wing and under-surface when these are lowered, giving more lift and less drag! The flaps are controlled with internaly M2,5 rods., and because of their huge surface linkaged to a 10 kg servo. With the computer transmitter these servo’s were slow downed to 5 sec., so that the nose does not go up, because the model has so the time to adapt itself to the flap situation, every moment! |
![]() Splitflaps B-17 (still to construct against the wing!) | ![]() Splitflaps B-17 |
Short Sunderland Fowler Flaps: This are Flaps moving simultaneous backwards and downwards, giving a lot of more lift in slow flying or allowing even a more slower landing. At the Sunderland model that had to be max. 9 cm backwards and 40° downwards! But how to make this complicated system practicable for a model? The end result looks very simple and finally it is so! But before that it was a long way to go. A lot of experiments, hours! For certain, because the Flaps have a trapezium shape, so the travelway is on each outerside different, and adjusting of them did require a lot of time. The Flap itself was constructed again, with clearfoil between it, against the hollow underside of the rear wingedge. Also here, each Flap is linkaged to a 10 kg servo, and for the same reason as at the B-17, slowed down to 5 sec. From the servo there goes a rod (M3 with ballinks) to large cranks on both sides of each flap. From these cranks, there are leaving 2 rods, both connected on the same side of the crank. Eentje (de buitenste; M2 draadeind met kwiklinks), voor de aansturing van een 4mm dikke veerstalen schuifstang (de heen en weer beweging).One (the outer one; M2,5 rod with kwiklinks), goes to a rod of 3mm Pianowire (for the back- and forward movement). To this rod (beared in hardwood blocks provided with a piece of plastic tube) the Flap is connected, hinge jointed. The second rod (the inner one; M3 rod with ballink and kwiklink) goes from the crank straight to the control horn of the Flap (the Up and Down movement). |
![]() Drawing; linkage Fowler Flaps Sunderland |
How does it operates than? Because the inner rod on the crank makes a shorter stroke than the outer one, the inner one really holds up the flap during the slide-movement, so that the flap starts to turn over on his hinge-joint on the leading edge. The more larger sliding movement, the more turnover movement! The extent of the turnover movement defines thus the angle of which the flap gets lowered and is thus dependent from the distance differance between the two side by side seated rods on the crank! After a severe waterdamage, by a hole in the hull (an under water hidden boulder), the condition of the balsawood rapid declined, and at one point it was not justified to fly any longer with the model. |
![]() Fowler Flaps Short Sunderland (topside) | ![]() Fowler Flaps Short Sunderland (underside) |
P-61 Flaps and Spoillerons: The P-61 has normal Flaps, max. 60º lowered, and are as well at the inner- as at the outerwing section, so total 4. The special flaphinges are recessed into flap- and wing undersurface. Again there is a gap between wing undersurface and flaps, when these are lowered, giving more lift and less drag! They are linkaged with M2,5 rods and kwiklinks and controlled from 10 kg servo’s, and again slowed down to 5 sec. The spoilerons are laminated, in a halfround and tapered moulding, of 3 sheets 0,4 ply, and between them carboncloth + epoxy. They are hinged (almost at the rear, on the upperinside of the the outerwing), on a long 3mm pianowire in a plastic tube, so it can turn out of the wing (therefore in the ribs are sawed segment shaped slots), and is eccentrically controlled direct from a servo, turning up simultaneous with the small tip aileron on the same side. On the other wing the tip aileron is going down of course, but the spoileron remains, almost unmoved, inside the wing (on account of the eccentric control linkage). |
![]() Normale Flaps P-61 (on inner- and outerwing) | ![]() Flaps P-61 (on inner- and outerwing)+ spoileron & tiny tipailleron |
![]() Spoilleron-linkage P-61 | ![]() Spoilleron + tiny tipailleron P-61 |
![]() Balloon method Polyester parts | ![]() Alum. Cowling with GRP nose cowlring Short Sunderland |
Cowlings P-61 These are not the same diameter over its entire length. Therefore a positive wooden mould have to be made first (with plywood formers between balsa blocks, planing and sanding it in shape). Then the cowlings (largest diameter Ø210mm) were made entirely of GRP with my balloon method above. |
![]() P-61 Mouldings & Plugs for Cowlings, Cockpit, etc. | ![]() GRP Cowling P-61 with radial Dummy |
Radial Dummy Engines; After hardening, there are three possibilities: 2) Alternatively; use the negative mould to form the dummies with GRP. |
Turrets: Sometimes you can buy them, also for some purchased plans, but certainly not for your own designs!
Kitchen oven methode:Bond to the plug, a block as a spool handle. Then make an increased framework of 6 to 10mm plywood, make an opening, 1mm around larger than the basic shape of the plug, place over this a cockpits appropriate 0.5 to 1 mm thick plastic plate (clear PVC or Buyrate), tighted around, and place it in the kitchen oven (± 200° C). |
![]() Mouldings & Plugs Short Sunderland | |
![]() Tail Turret Short Sunderland | ![]() Nose Turret Short Sunderland |
Chin, Sperry Ball Turret, and Tail Turret of the B-17, the Top Turret and Nosedome of the P-61 were also formed with GRP on positive moulds, against which the large balloon was pushed again, as defined by the nose ring of the cowlings. For the round Sperry Ball Turret of the B-17, I have used the cup of one of my many trophies as a template! (just the right size). |
![]() Nosedome Plug B-17 | ![]() Cheek Gunshields Plugs B-17 |
![]() Nose Dome & Chin-Turret B-17 | ![]() Cheek Gunshield left side B-17 |
![]() Removable Cockpit Hood B-17 with Top-Turret | ![]() Sperry-Ball Turret B-17 |
UNDER-CARRIAGE
Short Sunderland: The Sunderland was a flying boat and not an amphibian aircraft, so it really does not have an under-carriage for take-offs and landings on land! |
![]() Removable & extensable Beaching Gear Short Sunderland |
B-17 and P-61: They have a retractable undercarriage, an own construction and works via an electric motor, gears, micro switches and an M6 screwjack. This spindle is mounted in 2 alum. head walls and moves a bronze part back- and forwards, which is attached with two 3mm alum. Strips, hinged into flange bearings, to a forked and swivelable strutholder, which can tilt through it. In the B-17 are the struts (with 6½”wheels) retracted forwards with the wheels for 1/3 part strechted out, just like the original. Above them lies on a 1mm plywood bottom, the tanks for the inner engines. The scissors construction is working and therefore hard soldered. The strut in the middle is telescopic in the original plane and retracts the gear. At the model these struts are dummies of brass, but the middle one is also telescopic. |
![]() Own constructed electric Retract B-17, with 6½” wheel | ![]() Own constructed electric Retract B-17, down. |
At the P-61, the nose strut (with 4½” wheel) is retracted backwards, which is also closing the welldoors. In the lowered position, the welldoors are kept open by self curved springs from 0.4mm piano wire. During retracting the gear, all doors, 5 seconds delayed, get closed by two 180° Servos. |
Own constructed electric Retract P-61 | ![]() The own constructed Retracts with plastic cogwheels as a gear |
The plastic cogwheels as a gear, on the inside of the head wall (B-17), was exchanged later on the P-61 by a gearbox directly to 6V. speed 400 motor, because here was the pressure going towards the same head wall. (Struts on B-17 are retracted forwards, and on the P-61 backwards, and here was some pressure than on the plastic cogwheels, where they could not stand it!)
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![]() At the P-61, the plastic gear has been exchanged now for a gearbox | ![]() P-61; the 180º Servo for the mainwheel well doors
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![]() Main Strut P-61 with 7” wheel | ![]() Nose Strut P-61 with 4½” wheel |
ENGINE LINKAGES & ENGINE MIXERS.
The engines at my multi-engine models have no side thrust and little or zero down thrust (nacelles are being built on at 0 degrees). Controlling the throttles happens here on both sides with control cables of sullivan, linkaged to a servo.
Mixing Rudder / Engines, B17 - Sunderland – P-61:
For this we need 4 mixers, of which mixer 2-3-4 are on the same switch! (at my transmitter a switch on the throttle stick).
Never forget to switch off Mixer 2-3-4 after taking off! (otherwise the engines will react unintentional, when operating the rudder).
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